August 1st, 2025 Thoughts – caution discussion of legal topics from someone that is not a lawyer (my background is engineering)
Getting separation of Church and State right seems like something that is a worthy endeavor and has not been ideally turned up.
There is overlap – The State doesn’t want homelessness as a problem for people, The Church that loves their neighbor doesn’t want homelessness to be a problem for people. The State might disagree on what causes homelessness and how to fix it than The Church.
There are definitive differences between what The State sees as a problem and The Church sees as a problem in many countries. Differences in what is perceived or not perceived as sin in any society is consequential. It leaves gray area for the future. Gray area is ground that is likely to be profited from by some parties, not fully divested from by some parties.
If sin goes into building a bridge, a Church will likely still cross the bridge still use the bridge. Just because oppression goes into throughput does not mean The Church will ideally divest. This has shown precedent in history for being problematic such as with slavery.
If The Church disagrees to adamantly with the State it could lead to distrust, broken ties, oppression and persecution. Open communication channels are valuable and might be valued at times over direct opposition. A problems for others in society but since The Church does not live in those places, aren’t surrounded with the problems, The Church has less direct impact to challenge and make the system, State better in all areas.
The State likely knows this and trying to do right by all people might mean acknowledging the fact. The combination could lead to divestment from The Church, and a Church that claims to want to save all people while allowing problems to affect others parts of the population might not resonate with a public that wants Truth and Justice from God.
Less investment in God is consequential. Less pursuit of values like faith, grace, mercy, and forgiveness is consequential. It has the capacity to create injustice, the capacity to establish a different meaning of justice, what matters and what does not. If God can’t be trusted it might be seen as 10 Commandments are not worth valuing, or at least all of them might not be worth valuing.
The founders created a great and prosperous nation many years ago. That could be conflated to the system is perfect, or sufficient and does not need to be changed, addressed in more valuable ways. It is like thinking we no longer have slavery thus that are no problems with racial divides and discrimination. If a system is thought as sufficient it is not always invested in.
For instance criminal law – if there are many lawyers and it works for most people without a problem, it is likely to seen as no problem or less of a problem, not worthy of investing in. This reduced investment could disproportionately affect part of the population. This reduced investment could lead to a time bomb for the future – a future with many unforgiving prosecutors – with no competition because criminal defense law was considered something that is less profitable, pays less, isn’t really needed.
If someone made a deal with God, and there were no crimes for 2 years – this might lull the population into thinking injustice is permanently fixed. An acknowledgment, an unsettling truth that most might not want to acknowledge is that the system has to have a certain amount of cases to have sufficient for the future. Not trying to say crime is good, am trying to say that the combination might create less than ideal requirements, including potential for false accusations – to keep the gears of the system moving, keep lawyers and judges, our population fighting for justice.
If justice is seen as already found, doesn’t have to be fought for, it won’t be fought for, and not fought for might give a vacuum for corrupt power at a certain time in the future.
Good times, like Peace times, times with less war – might give feeling that is the default standard for this world, a guarantee, like a Human Right, something we will always have, something we get just for being alive. While both The State and The Church would likely like to guarantee this for all citizens – it could create false reliance.
Due process seems like an important concept, a concept I personally haven’t given a ton of thought to, yet its value for protecting Human Rights including a future where one can support their family is immense.
Conversation with AI (Google Gemini) about this document https://g.co/gemini/share/0e1e0515339d
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